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Episode 58: Peter Bergen – Kirkpatrick, UFOs, and the Pentagon
Peter Bergen is CNN’s national security analyst, a vice president at New America, a professor of practice at Arizona State University, and the host of the Audible podcast “In the Room with Peter Bergen.” He...
Episode 57: Alex Dietrich, Clouds, Critical Thinking, and UFOs
Alex Dietrich served a 20-year career as a Naval officer and fighter pilot with two combat deployments. She was also deployed to Afghanistan as an Infrastructure reconstruction engineer. She then transitioned to academia, serving as...
Episode 56: Robert Bartholomew – Havana Syndrome and Mass Psychogenic Illness
Robert Bartholomew has a PhD in Medical Sociology, and is an Honorary Senior Lecturer in the Department of Psychological Medicine at the University of Auckland in New Zealand. He’s an expert in Mass Psychogenic Illness...
Episode 55 – Professor Avi Loeb: The Galileo Project
What is a University professor doing investigating UFOs? Professor Avi Loeb of Harvard University heads the Galileo Project, which seeks (in part) to identify the nature of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena by establishing a network of...
Episode 54 – Mia Bloom and Sophia Moskalenko: Pastels and Pedophiles
Mia Bloom is Professor of Communication at Georgia State University with a PhD in political science from Columbia University. Sophia Moskalenko is a research fellow at Georgia State University and a researcher at the National...
Episode 53 – Jason Colavito – UFOs and the Invisible College, How Did We Get Here?
Jason Colavito is an author and journalist with a focus on “alternative archeology” and, more recently, the UFO cultural phenomenon. In May 2021, he wrote the article: “How Washington Got Hooked on Flying Saucers” in...
Episode 52 – Luis Elizondo – UFOs, UAPs, AATIP, and TTSA
Luis Elizondo is a former senior intelligence official, a disclosure advocate, a national security expert, and the former director of the Pentagon’s UFO/UAP Program (AATIP). We talk about his work in those capacities and also...
Episode 51 – Michael: Post Inauguration QAnon Catchup
Michael is a “follower” of Q, in what is commonly known as the QAnon conspiracy theory. I first talked to him one year ago, February 2020. We met on Twitter discussing UFOs, but had a...
Episode 50 – Alex: Raised by Conspiracy Theorists
Alex was raised by conspiracy theorists. This makes him different from most people who end up down the rabbit hole in that assuming nefarious plots were going on was never a surprise to him. Indeed,...
Episode 49 – Georgina: A QAnon Friend in the UK
QAnon is a very American conspiracy theory, focussing upon a supposed plan by a mysterious entity named ‘Q’ who was working with Donald Trump to rid the US of a corrupt elite. But despite this...